Thursday, September 17, 2009

HJHOP Podcast 14

Today, I'm going to pretend I'm Orac and do a show that features an anti-vaccination "physician." He appeared on Brannon Howse's show on the 9th of this month. I encourage you to let Howse know about the quality of physician he let on his show and demand a retraction. (Don't say anything naughty, of course.)

It's a short episode and is a little rough around the edges.

Now I must work.

Links:

Interesting update, one not on the podcast. As I was working on the podcast, I kept this last link open, and after a while, a chat screen popped up. It was from Dania, whose English is really getting better. She's with Eisenstein's outfit, and she was pushing Eisenstein's vitamin D swine flu treatment. Not a soft sell, really. Since they knew that this was going to be written down (it is chat, after all), it seemed only fair that I share their wisdom with you.
You are now chatting with 'Dania'

you: Is this a real chat?

Dania: Yes, it is

you: I was wondering about the swine flu package.

Dania: Is there anything I can help you with

you: How effective is it?

you: Also, how does it work, too, I guess. I haven't heard about Vitamin D being used to prevent flu.

Dania: The vitamin D helps boosting your immune system. The 5,000 IU is a daily dosage that helps your immune system to be in good standing so when ever you get expose to the flu, you have the defenses on your body to attack it

you: What is an IU?

you: It sounds like you need to take a lot.

you: hello?

Dania: IU is the universal measuring unit

you: So, how much is it?

you: the unit, I mean, in Mgs.

you: I have a fear of pills is the only reason I ask

you: and im worse at shots

Dania: There is not a equation that can be used to transform IU to mgs...

Dania: This is an all natural vitamin D, it does not have preservatives, so there is no side effects. Unless you are allergic to wool

you: why is it better than a vaccine? I mean I can take a nasal vaccine for flu.

you: hello?

you: gone?

Dania: Sorry

Dania: I am also taking calls qith questions

you: I see.

Dania: The nasal vaccines is not more effective or safer that a actual shot

Dania: since it still has additives and other ingredients

Dania: We recommend the vitamin D since that is a way of precaution that is all natural and will not harm the body

you: But the shot does harm people?

Dania: The shot has harmful ingredients.

Dania: For more information you can go to www.pandemicfluonline.com or

you: Is that all vaccines?

Dania: www.drtenpenny.com

Dania: yes

you: Wow that pandemicflu site is pretty amazing! So...I'm sorry to bug you...does that mean I should never get a vaccination?

Dania: That is something that you will need to talk to your doctor and see the pros and cons since the risks vary depending on each individual and the surroundings
There you have it. Check out those other two sites; they are unashamedly wacky. One of them, I think it's pandemicfluonline, currently has an article up about contrails. Fucking contrail conspiracy theories. I mean, seriously. She's like the crazy rainbow lady:



You've reached the bottom of the barrel, Brannon. Can't wait to see what you come up with next!

I encourage my readers to play "Spot the Logical Fallacy" using Dania's contribution to this chat.

HJ

Update: Nobody dies from lack of health care, Eisenstein? Suck it. Hard.

6 comments:

Stephen Moore said...

Dania: This is an all natural vitamin D, it does not have preservatives, so there is no side effects. Unless you are allergic to wool

Huh? What's in this stuff?

Bing said...

Yeah, what's that shit about? For some reason, I kind of accepted that. WTF?

HJ

Kate said...

Out of curiosity I googled "IU to mg conversion" and there totally is an equation for it. Of course a conversion equation would require use of MATH and SCIENCE. Who needs that when you have dried dung beetles and sheep offal, or whatever is in that garbage.

I was buying shoes the other day and some 30ish woman was on her cell phone, obviously talking to her friend who wasn't going to vaccinate her child. She was saying things like "oh yeah, I've heard it's linked to autism" and "well you can't be too careful, maybe it's safer to not vaccinate while they're young." I honestly almost screamed at her, "What is worse than polio, measles or tetanus?? Some talentless Playboy centerfold blathers something on Oprah and you windbags rush to expose your children to the worst diseases mankind has ever known??"

But since they won't let me pass the bar if I have a criminal record, I refrained from maniacally grabbing her cell phone and screaming into it. Seriously though. What a retard.

Then I had an idea- if only there was only some way we could get Jenny McCarthy to tout evolution...

Long time lurker, first time commenter. Dig the blog!

Bing said...

When I come to power, Kate, you will be free to yell at antivaxxers all you like.

I am reading up on this category of extraordinary claim (the medical), and I am stunned by the type of shit that people are willing to believe. I'm working on another post about quackery, but I usually start 2 or 3 times before a post takes off.

HJ (my verification word is "coost".)

Doctor Thursday said...

I posted on the Howse site with the salient points on Eisenstein, including your links and I closed with a bible verse. I have had success with posting there before, debunking idiotic junk about the ark and modern seagoing vessels.

Brannon wrote me back a very nice short note, stating he had been advised of that and thanking me. But he didn't allow the comment on the site.

I'm in Memphis, and I attend and monitor all the Worldview Weekend events that come here for a school project I'm working on.

I've met whining David Limbaugh, crazy David Barton, Watergate burglar Chuck Colson, Brannon Howse and others. I keep hoping for a Ken Hamm siting, but no luck so far.

Brannon is really super nice and ingratiating in person. But then again, he doesn't know me as an interloper to the events.

Bing said...

I imagine he did not say anything about issuing a retraction, an apology and his impending departure for a Mongolian hermitage? Or dare I hope for too much?

HJ